tom
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Post by tom on Aug 6, 2005 10:27:44 GMT -8
Many brands of beer have disappeared over recent years in this country.
As an example, we had one beer brewed locally for many years, and very nice it was, too! Along came one of the big breweries and bought it out.
While it was still being produced locally after the takeover, instead of being distributed directly from the plant to the pubs, as was the case originally, the beer was first transported to the main distribution centre of the new owners, about 30 miles away. It was then sent to the pubs. The taste suffered as a result, but it was still better than the new owners' own stuff.
When they found that their own brew was not selling as well as the drinkers' favourite, the competitor was withdrawn.
Many small breweries were swallowed up in that way, with the resultant loss of many well-established beers. There has been a slight backlash, in the form of the Campaign for Real Ale, and there are some signs of an albeit minor recovery.
Tom
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Post by peridot44 on Aug 12, 2005 3:17:59 GMT -8
I used to think that the pop of the 60s & 50s was great and the modern stuff is all tuneless noise, except for a few more interesting things. But when the compilation CDs of music of these earlier times arrived, I remembered - actually I only liked about 10% of the total output in the 50s and some 5% in the 60s. So perhaps things haven't changed so very much? (though what I like now probably wouldn't register as a meaningful percentage at all)
I don't drink beer, don't like it at all. Used to drink it as a student because I had no money, and it was beer or cidar (got very tired of both). A half of bitter cost 1 shilling then (mid-60s) and seemed expensive, but lager was half a crown and out of my reach. I knew nothing of real ale and nor did any other students I was with. Did I miss anything? P
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tom
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Post by tom on Aug 12, 2005 18:58:22 GMT -8
The main problem with compilation CDs is that they keep coming up with the same tracks.
Thousands of records were released during the 50s and 60s, but only a tiny percentage of them ever appear on compilations. The ones that do are the ones that still get played frequently on the radio, anyway.
It cannot even be argued that these tracks appear time after time because they were the best-selling records. Many Top 10 hits of the 50s and 60s NEVER appear on these compilations, while many that do were not particularly big hits.
As an example, Il Silenzio, by Nini Rosso, reached no. 8 in the UK charts in 1965, and remained in the charts for 14 weeks. I have yet to see it on any compilation. By contrast, Shirley Bassey's Goldfinger only spent 9 weeks in the UK charts in 1964, reaching a peak of only 21. Yet this song appears in many compilations.
The result of this 'cherry picking' means that only a limited range of music ever gets to see the light of day again, meaning that younger people never get to hear some of the true gems of the 50s and 60s, unless their parents (or grandparents) still have the original records.
Tom
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Post by peridot44 on Aug 13, 2005 0:36:58 GMT -8
Very true, Tom, there are a great many that don't turn up at all. There is a song that I remember called Here comes Summer. Did Cliff sing it, here? or was it someone else in the US and Cliff did a cover version? Haven't been able to find it, even on Summertime compilations. Sorry, this posting is a little out of place here.;D P
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tom
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Post by tom on Aug 13, 2005 9:07:53 GMT -8
Very true, Tom, there are a great many that don't turn up at all. There is a song that I remember called Here comes Summer. Did Cliff sing it, here? or was it someone else in the US and Cliff did a cover version? Haven't been able to find it, even on Summertime compilations. Sorry, this posting is a little out of place here.;D P I think Jerry Keller recorded Here Comes Summer. I haven't heard a Cliff version of it, but it wouldn't surprise me if there is one. Tom
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Post by peridot44 on Aug 13, 2005 10:17:32 GMT -8
Thanks Tom P
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Post by M.Maestro on Aug 13, 2005 13:24:02 GMT -8
The main problem with compilation CDs is that they keep coming up with the same tracks. Thousands of records were released during the 50s and 60s, but only a tiny percentage of them ever appear on compilations. The ones that do are the ones that still get played frequently on the radio, anyway. It cannot even be argued that these tracks appear time after time because they were the best-selling records. Many Top 10 hits of the 50s and 60s NEVER appear on these compilations, while many that do were not particularly big hits. As an example, Il Silenzio, by Nini Rosso, reached no. 8 in the UK charts in 1965, and remained in the charts for 14 weeks. I have yet to see it on any compilation. By contrast, Shirley Bassey's Goldfinger only spent 9 weeks in the UK charts in 1964, reaching a peak of only 21. Yet this song appears in many compilations. The result of this 'cherry picking' means that only a limited range of music ever gets to see the light of day again, meaning that younger people never get to hear some of the true gems of the 50s and 60s, unless their parents (or grandparents) still have the original records. Tom There are a few reasons why certain records from the 50's/60's do not show up on compilations, Tom: a) You have to get permission from the person/record label that owns the license rights to publicly market the record for royality fees purposes. (U.S. Copyright Law) b) The person/record label that owns the license rights do not grant permission to market their record/song. c) The license rights holder is unavailable/cannot be found. d) The masters for the recording are lost/damaged beyond repair (reel-to-reel recordings in particular). e) Very little demand/request for the song/record. f) In the U.S. market in particular, there is little RADIO exposure for many hits (ecspecially the obscure ones) from the 50's/60's since the fragmentation of the genre in the 90's. Many radio stations/record stores simply cater to the most popular records/artists for their particular audience(s) & simply don't care about expanding their playlists/floor space for the "obscure" or "ol folks". (That's a completely different topic onto itself, which we can discuss a some point in the future, if you'd like).
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Post by tah64 on May 30, 2006 5:10:56 GMT -8
If you can, get the Journey South CD, and have a listen, they were one of the X-Factor '05 finalists..........hang on before you raise your eyes to the sky and tut, this debut album has loads of covers on including The first time ever I saw your face, Desperado and Time after time, which they performed in the show, they did a good job on a lot of them IMO. Their version of Let it Be was exceptionally good (but this might be just my opinion as I don't really like the Beatles ) They sing with enthusiasm and wholehartedly...... I'd say they might possibly be around for a while too.
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